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Title: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on October 30, 2025, 02:11:18 PM
This is just one example, how humans will be replaced.

We are feeding AI every day, with every question asked online (try to avoid that) with forking stupid AI "tools" for pictures, movies, books and so on.

Companies are using AI (online for searching engines i.e.) allowing AI (for 3d i.e.) and so much more.

And here we are, a handful of people, trying to save a place for humanity, fighting the fight dwarf against giant.
Sometimes all this feels so useless, so dumb --- but damn, I just can't give up, I won't accept AI replacing us!

Amazon (shitty company anyways) (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/article-15234631/amazon-layoff-ai-robotics-corporate-jobs.html)
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Tenser on November 07, 2025, 01:29:09 PM
AI will be taking away a lot of jobs.  Not just artists,  but any employee that uses a computer with data.

Luckily they can't build houses yet. 
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 07, 2025, 01:48:47 PM
My mother (82) told me, how shocked she was, sitting in an ice cafe in Germany, when a robot rolled to her table and she had to press the button for what she wanted to have.
I only asked: And you didn't left right away?
No, she said, I so wanted to have a Cappuccino

I was speechless!

You must be kidding right?
Maybe not complete houses, but for sure, robots with AI technology can be used to build a house, the same way, they can build cars.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: bonj on November 08, 2025, 01:07:53 AM
AI can't and will never be able to produce art.  Graphics and disposable pop culture crap ai can puke up all day and night long but it will NEVER BE ART.   Try not to worry my friends as you are artist among your fellow artist and AI will never replace that. It will never be human.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 08, 2025, 01:01:10 PM
Luckily you're absolute right with this point.
AI isn't art and never will be!
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on November 09, 2025, 07:30:32 PM
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( https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1408924244576943&set=a.121655759970471 )
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 09, 2025, 07:44:23 PM
Spot on!
AI is the follow-up from fb and co, so called social networks, that are all, but social.
All and everything for the fast dopamine kick, creating more and more addicts with the attention span of a mayfly. Resulting in a ridiculous number of adults with the stamp ADHD, running to the doc for their Ritalin.
Follow the money, you know, where it will lead you to.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on November 14, 2025, 01:02:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFitkz5VJvI

Why AI "Art" Feels So Wrong
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on November 14, 2025, 12:32:48 PM
A very interesting in-depth analysis indeed !
How did I miss this ..?
Thank you, MKDAWUSS , for bringing this to us.

What I find cringe is when people using Gen AI calls themseves "AI artists".
No !
Wrong !
There is no such thing as an "AI artist".
The only "artist" in Gen AI art is Gen AI.
They prompt (commission) Gen AI to do something for them and Gen AI does that.
So they are NOT the artist.
They are the client !

- John -
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Pushee-Ri on November 14, 2025, 01:50:03 PM
@Friedland:
Watch out: soon, AI apologists will start calling themselves not only artists, but also writers (after all, they are typing something). And when they start calling themselves Coders/Hackers (with a certain blurriness in the eyes and a lot of goodwill, you could possibly see a prompt as code), we'll finally know what's going on with AI users :D
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 14, 2025, 01:57:30 PM
Just half way through but "yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!"

Too many times, that I've read "just another tool"  what I can't and NEVER WILL AGREE with.

Thanks for this fantastic find MKDAWUSS  :)

@Pushee-Ri
Soon?
They are already doing it, AI-books flooding the marked that it is sickening.  And for the coders, I don't have a clue, but I bet, those AI"coders" are already out there as well.

Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on November 14, 2025, 02:08:17 PM
... but I bet, those AI"coders" are already out there as well.

Yes they are.
You can build entire websites with AI and you have things like Base44 (https://base44.com/)

When Art Station (https://www.artstation.com/) started, they had a No-AI stance,
As they picked up momentum they dropped it and now they are overrun.
It is like a freggin virus ...

- John -
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 14, 2025, 02:22:35 PM
Right, the same goes for online commerce, forums, blogs and so on.
When I was searching for the best solution for this side, I was really miffed, that it's so hard to find scripts, that are not already taken over by AI.

I remember the times, when everyone wanted to have a homepage, glittering and of course tons of flash. And this awful beepworld. Luckily, there were enough people out there with a brain and taste, that said no to that crap and I still could earn a dime or 2 with creating pages.

That train is gone for sure now with AI, like so many other trains as well.
Fast and cheap, and it will be like that with so many other things as well  :(
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Tenser on November 14, 2025, 03:20:06 PM
Greed always wins,  and unfortunately most social media USERS,  are unaware and don't care.  These big media platforms will alway choose earnings over integrity. 
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 14, 2025, 07:09:14 PM
And sadly enough these companies will obey and we will lose all  :(
If the people would understand this, they would boycott the social networks, cause without the people, these networks are nothing.
But 98% will say "I have nothing to hide, so what" 1% will say "I don't care" and 1% will leave.
It should be the other way around, but the last 5 years have shown, how easy it is, to put the people in chains.

And we, with our little forum, will also be controlled  >:(  :(  >:(

chat control (https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/this-is-a-political-deception-new-chat-control-convinces-lawmakers-but-not-privacy-experts-yet)
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on November 14, 2025, 08:45:40 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1414449234019306&set=a.523833963080842

(https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/580562526_1414449240685972_7378650224987048207_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=wHUBcrDPJUYQ7kNvwHJ5J2w&_nc_oc=Adkh7XzvO86YGaDTVvGlSdnoMT1LA5U3ELOrueVmU_TKsuI9YLDkjtmfJpaXUxJxPd5zG0E6PjgMtk1Zyyuukgrb&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&_nc_gid=55qruTDijC4uKLDGQCywPA&oh=00_AfjLrl0A7uwTe9L-o6W8QSL3vOv9TnF14mUofV8IW2Pl-Q&oe=691D711E)
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 14, 2025, 10:36:26 PM
Thanks for the laughter  :))
This woman gave for sure the best answer ever!
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on November 15, 2025, 12:11:34 PM
John Oliver's take on the subject:

AI Slop: Last Week Tonight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpg1RmzAbc)

Yeah ... "Norwegian gigant owl" ... OMG !

- John -
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 15, 2025, 01:24:46 PM
Yeah ... "Norwegian gigant owl" ... OMG !


and that owl, it was almost impossible, to NOT stumble over it at youtube and co :D it even made it's way to vk.com

When I saw this video the first time, I was like: are those people for real, who thought, the pictures are real?
I really thought, it was fake as the AI shit.
Now I know better, people really believe in this AI crap being real, and that's so scary O_O

Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on November 15, 2025, 07:08:44 PM
WOOOT ..?  You mean those cats are .. not ... real ... ??  (astonished face)
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 15, 2025, 08:04:01 PM
Oh dear, someone just destroyed your faith in these cats?  8)  :o  :))

What really pisses me of, if you've seen these cats and dogs, special if they are midjourney, you will recognize AI right away.
And then go shopping at rosity for backgrounds and stumble over exactly these extreme cute cats and puppies to buy for 10 bucks.
10 bucks for AI garbage!
Btw. I've told rosity about it, I got ignored.

And I really have to do something with these boring smilies and find better ones. And an angry face as well, cause that's missing here.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on November 15, 2025, 09:01:18 PM
What really pisses me of, if you've seen these cats and dogs, special if they are midjourney, you will recognize AI right away.
And then go shopping at rosity for backgrounds and stumble over exactly these extreme cute cats and puppies to buy for 10 bucks.
10 bucks for AI garbage!
Btw. I've told rosity about it, I got ignored.

I think 'Rosity is dying a slow death.
To me 'Roisy was dead already a couple of years ago.
Like Art Station it has become overrun by Gen AI crap.

I was a die hard Poser user up until Poser Pro 2012.
When Gen 8 was released I made the switch to DS - but I would never ever pay a dime for the soft (hinting at DS Premium).
Because too much of the basic shit is simply broken and will possibly not ever be fixed.

As I understand it, Bondware plan to integrate AI in Poser 14.
My German friend I've told you about. who is now on Linux and Blender, was on Poser 13 when he dropped it.
He expressed some concerns to Nerd 3D about integrating AI in Poser 14 - and was brushed off as a backwards striving dinosuar...
Is that a way to treat a paying customer ?

So he dumped Poser and went Linux and Blender and haven't looked back since.

And speaking of Poser - wtf is this ?  -> Poser Play (https://play.posersoftware.com/)

- John -
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 15, 2025, 10:15:43 PM
And speaking of Poser - wtf is this ?  -> Poser Play (https://play.posersoftware.com/)


That? That is a disaster, I never made an account for this crap, I dumped Poser long time ago, only using it from time to time for test stuff.

I was mocking about this crap when I got the first mail from rosity about it.
Just the awful pictures they've used to promote it, like here the man put into the picture, even a 5 year old could do better with PS :D

People at rosity are the same way "charming" as Richard at daz. Maybe it's the same family :-P
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on November 15, 2025, 10:32:15 PM
People at rosity are the same way "charming" as Richard at daz. Maybe it's the same family :-P
You mean ... inbreds ..?
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 16, 2025, 12:53:14 AM
Oh so much luck, that I didn't drank right now  ;D  my screen wouldn't had been happy about it  ;D
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on November 17, 2025, 06:28:00 AM
https://x.com/dwnews/status/1990286905561489802

Quote
DW News
@dwnews
Germany wants to become an AI leader, but can a country still struggling with digitalization catch up to the US and China? Now, Google wants to help. #dwbusiness
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 17, 2025, 03:57:58 PM

Germany wants to become an AI leader, but can a country still struggling with digitalization catch up

That's an extreme attack against my poor screen :D

First Firedland and now you :D
They aren't even able to offer a good and fast internet, not to talk about the really bad mobile phone range, even in cities like Hamburg  :o  :o
Germany has become a laughingstock, sad but true.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Tenser on November 18, 2025, 08:52:18 PM
In the past,  George Orwell wrote a cautionary tale about Big Brother,  and we all paid attention.  

Then,  the next generation invited big brother into their lives with a simple agreement and acceptance "click"  for term and conditions that were never even read,   because 25 pages is too much to read,   and that new app offers so much convenience. 

Some countries teach critical thinking.  Other countries barely provide sufficient funds for a mediocre education system. 
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 19, 2025, 01:22:41 PM
His books were warnings, 1985 and Animal Farm, both have told us, what we will be facing in the future.
He had insider knowledge and told people about it in his books. Too little understood and now, that it's all shown straight to us, no hidden agenda anymore, people still deny to see and understand.

Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on November 25, 2025, 09:48:47 PM
https://x.com/MerriamWebster/status/1993407569269071940

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f5b261f127fc4dfb85a091be140e37f392a7ab1c05377f890e5e918f6d61293c.png)
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 26, 2025, 12:46:35 PM
Person of the year?
WTF?

We surely are living in a twisted, upside down world  :o
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on November 26, 2025, 04:07:11 PM
Yep. And sadly, I think it's only going to get worse.

I do find it funny that the editors of the dictionary had to remind the masses what a person is.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on November 26, 2025, 06:57:57 PM
had to remind the masses what a person is.

My bet, over 90% don't know the meaning of "person"
Sad enough, but understandable by the ignorance of the masses, even if some is trying to explain.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Tenser on November 26, 2025, 11:00:39 PM
This is no different than when they acknowledge Youtube,  they are a flavor of the month publication. 

Just be happy its not the orange prez.
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on December 11, 2025, 03:06:41 PM
Person of the year?
WTF?

We surely are living in a twisted, upside down world  :o

https://x.com/TIME/status/1999097617633189955

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G75K88raoAAkhKH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on December 11, 2025, 05:53:38 PM
Ok, that sounds a bit normal now
Quote
the Architects of AI are TIME’s 2025 Person of the Year

One day these architects will be tarred and feathered, that's for sure!
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Friedland on December 11, 2025, 06:02:32 PM
"And here we are, a handful of people, trying to save a place for humanity, fighting the fight dwarf against giant."

Lets !  :)

- John -
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on December 18, 2025, 03:28:13 PM
And I for sure never will give up!
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: MKDAWUSS on January 22, 2026, 03:48:29 PM
https://x.com/Dexerto/status/2014016760731549832

Quote
Dexerto
@Dexerto
YouTube's CEO Neal Mohan says users will soon be able to use AI to generate Shorts using their own likeness

He added that over one million channels used YouTube's AI creation tools daily in December

What could possibly go wrong...

I'm so ready for this bubble to burst or the 15 minutes to be up...
Title: Re: AI --- so wonderful, isn't it ---- no need to worry
Post by: Nena on January 22, 2026, 05:28:11 PM

What could possibly go wrong...

I'm so ready for this bubble to burst or the 15 minutes to be up...

Stupid brainless people don't think about anything could go wrong ... so be prepared that a lot will go very, very wrong.

Yes please, let this focking bubble burst right now!