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If it matters ... it matters / Re: Renderosity
Last post by Friedland -
You are quite right, Nena.
It is not fair nor right in any way at all - but this is how Renderosity acts.

... and there's nothing legal I can do about it at all.
All Renderosity needs to do is to point out they didn't use the image for commercial purposes and then point at the TOS.
And then its over even before it  began.

The lesson we can take from this is that no social media can be trusted not to pull a fast one and you can definitely not expect any fair treatment from Renderosity.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if that Jenny Nyström-esque image you won a competition with will turn up in a future newsletter coming up in time for winter.

So this all fuels the argument to get a website of your own.
A site that you - and nobody else - controls, where you can put up your artwork.

But of course, it still isn't safe, considering the scrapers and AI, but at least its out of reach for the social media tycoons.

- John -
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If it matters ... it matters / Re: Renderosity
Last post by Nena -
I think it's not only unfair, it's plain not right, what they've done here.

The big pages think, they can do, what ever they want, and even if they can't, they'll do it anyway.
Cause they have the money and the lawyers, that can and will crush the little man in a sec.
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If it matters ... it matters / Renderosity
Last post by Friedland -


Wait a moment..
Haven't we seen this before ?
Yes you have, but now there's a story here.

About a year ago I was still a member of Renderosity.
Then something happend, which I'm not going to go into detail with, but I got in conflict with the mods, ok.
The result of the ordeal ended with me logging out, never to return.

But before I logged out, I whiped my gallery clean.
No images left.
... or so I thought.

The other day I happend to come across a newsletter from Renderosity.
Among other topics they presented "Expressions in Monochrome".
And there is was.
My image !
The image I thought I had cleared out of all existence on Renderosity.



But obviously not.
Renderosity must have had it cached in some place I could not get to...

Now, there's no sense in going after Renderosity on this.
The TOS is the very same as it is on all social media platforms.
"By submitting to the galleries you grant Renderosity an exclusive blah-blah-blah" and more blah.

So, Renderosity didn't use the image for commercial purposes.
Agreed it can be argued, since the newsletter do contain ads, but at best it'a a border line issue.
It's a newsletter.

But the thing here is that Renderosity used my image without asking me or even telling me about it.
And I don't think they intend to do so at all.

Now, the "moral" in all this is to be aware and very careful with what you upload to Renderosity or any social media platform.
Preferrably, you should get a website of your own and upload your art there.
It's very easy to put in a link - like this:

John Friedland Art

There are plenty of free webspaces out there if you look around, and if you don't want to grapple with things like Word Press,
I highly recommend Weebly.
Once you get your head around how it works, it's very easy to manage.
And you even get SEO-tools with it - for free.

I've had my Weebly webspace for over 10 years and it works a charm.
So do not trust Renderosity or any other social media.
When commercial interest takes precedence, everything else is out the window.

- John -
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If it matters ... it matters / Re: Black on black
Last post by Nena -
It's ages ago, I was building homepages for money and I got a good deal from an author.
Beside the job we became friends, that was the good thing, otoh it made work more complicated.

She wanted a special blue, powder soft light sky blue.
Go figure!
Not one blue was the right one for her and I used any soft blue color code that I could come up with.
Writing down every code, or I would have got lost.
I ended with the freaking first blue for the page, only that she didn't know, but I, cause I had the codes in front of my nose.

Impossible to satisfy all and everyone with the first try. It's like people need to complain or come up with "but I would like bla bla bla" only to accept in the end the first thing you've presented to them.



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If it matters ... it matters / Re: Black on black
Last post by Friedland -
Thank you, Nena.  :)
My little "rant" was aimed mostly at freshers - if any.
I've been dealing with AD's in my work as a photographer and there's a reason why I refuse to do commissions ...
- John -